When someone says ‘gender affirming care’ to me I ask ‘do you mean helping little boys understand they are boys and not girls?’ No. They explain. I say ‘oh okay. You mean sterilization of children and child sexual mutilation’.
I always think of Helen Joyce saying "calling someone male is not an insult, they are half of the population," when I hear someone saying "misgendering" is cruel; we are correctly sexing and that is not hateful.
Slogans like "Trans women are women etc" are, as Lifton described, "thought terminating cliches", used by purveyors of totalist ideologies to shut down dissent and independent thinking. Food for thought.
You have adopted a new moral and linguistic framework. And you’re trying to make those who have not complied wrong. You’re no different than the religious right, trying to force people to have the “right” beliefs.
First, let’s look at science. How much of the science that you say you follow is empirically grounded versus based on a new framework that is being used to discuss this issue? Tobacco companies used to say they were following the science when making claims that there were no evidence that smoking could be harmful. Second, people on the religious right think they’re doing the right thing as well and they could also cherry pick science to back up some of the things they say.
To whom you are attracted sexually is mostly a subjective feeling (although there are some objective tests that can identify it) and therefore cannot reasonably be contested by an outside observer.
Where you decide to live your life on a spectrum of superficial, stereotypical male to female attributes (and we all do) is purely subjective and similarly cannot be questioned.
However, your biological sex reflects an objective reality which cannot be changed by your subjective personal view and futile attempts to do so can result in serious health impacts to you as well as harms to members of the sex you are impersonating (primarily women).
Others who are grounded in objective reality should never be forced to accept your subjective version of your actual biological sex.
Finally, it's past time for the LGB community to separate themselves from the trans activists who are trying to take away the rights of women to fairness in sports and to privacy and safety in their restrooms, locker rooms and prisons. They also advocate for the chemical and surgical mutilation of children many of whom would grow up gay.
Their actions are evil and the
understandable negative reaction to the harm they are causing is spilling over to innocent people who are just going about their business, marrying and leading their lives.
Claiming the trans activists are trying to take away the rights of women is like claiming PETA advocates for the killing of animals. Trans people are trying to EXPAND women’s rights, not take them away. And the claim that children would otherwise grow up gay is just ludicrous. Trans kids and gay kids are two different groups. You can be in both, but nothing says you have to be.
Trans activists (men who pretend to be women) are definitely taking away the right to single sex spaces of females! Humans can't change sex, and certain spaces are for female sex only. Males who invade these spaces are taking away the rights of women. And research has shown that a majority of gender non-conforming kids grow up to be gay. There is no such thing as a "trans" child.
Of course there’s a such thing as a trans child. Every trans adult was once a trans child. Where the eff do you think trans adults come from if there were no trans children; they don’t just fall out of the sky at age 20.
Humans can change sex. We’ve known they can for decades. Trans women are not males and certainly aren’t invading women’s spaces. In most cases, cis women invite trans women into their spaces because they understand that trans women are women.
Transphobes are the ones who are taking away women’s rights. You pretend that trans women are men, while allowing the patriarchy to strip your rights because you want to feel like you’re better than someone. Look in the mirror, you are the problem!
And no, research does not even suggest gender non-conforming kids grow up to be gay. That’s a completely ludicrous statement with no basis in science.
One of my friends had literal nightmares about having to go through male puberty because she knew that she was not a boy. How would that have anything to do with her sexuality?
It's mind boggling how "progressive" men feel completely comfortable dictating to women whom they should be forced to share locker rooms, prison cells and rape shelters with. They make MAGA men look positively feminist by comparison.
Great article, a pleasure to read. I hope for more.
Indeed these are men mimicking women, it has a biological term - sex mimicry. It appears in all major animal groups, from reptiles to birds to fish and mammals and cephalopods.
It is neither illegal nor evil to refer to an amateur actor by their actual name, and actual “he she” pronoun.
In fact, unless you’re an actor in the same play, it’s normal.
“Careful medical evaluation” my ass. An MD who asserts this falsehood is practicing fraudulently and incompetently and should not retain their license to practice.
Thank you for posting the link to the review article. I have a feeling that it will be an invaluable read for anyone who, like me, is trying to talk a friend or family member out of continuing “gender affirming” hormone therapy. I hear so many medical professionals touting the many benefits of hormone therapy, but I never hear anything at all from the establishment about the risks. I’ve always thought that there had to be risks, potentially even very serious ones, based on extrapolation from various documented medical conditions and medication side effects which mimic “gender affirming care” (ie. Klinefelter’s Syndrome, the side effects of synthetic estrogens, etc), but it’s been so hard to find anything that deals with transgender medicine directly because it is so new.
If you're looking for sound medical research papers on the effects of gender procedures, SEGM is a good source: https://segm.org/studies
Also, a few years ago, Leor Sapir deconstructed some of the faulty claims that there are benefits to maiming children with puberty blockers (this might not be relevant to your situation if the friend or family member is already well into puberty): https://www.realityslaststand.com/p/the-distortions-in-jack-turbans-psychology
While there are no barriers to self ID, I fully reject pronoun privilege in all forms and will continue supporting all efforts to: ban gender affirming care for those under 25, sue the doctors who followed consumer-driven care, and ensure the party of they/them is dismatled.
Look around at all the straight men mewling and carping for trans-identified men. MattY (who founded Substack, by the way), Ezra, Jolyon Maugham, Keir Starmer, J. B. Pritzker, Jared Polis, Bob Ferguson, Gavin Newsom, blah blah. Yes, you can find a couple of women here and there mouthing the same tune. But honestly, it's wall-to-wall straight dudes out there serving men's social interest in controlling women while costing the transpologists nothing.
This is a very different statement than "women are women and men are men."
Can you tell us makes trans women and trans men "trans," and why we need to mention it at all if they are merely women and men? And if they're not simply women and men, what's the difference?
Slogans like "Trans women are women etc" are, as Lifton described, "thought terminating cliches", used by purveyors of totalist ideologies to shut down dissent and independent thinking. Food for thought.
Man. The science is Tim McBride's male DNA present in every cell of his body and his penis, whether or not it's still attached. You cannot gaslight us anymore!
Slogans like "Trans women are women etc" are, as Lifton described, "thought terminating cliches", used by purveyors of totalist ideologies to shut down dissent and independent thinking. Food for thought.
It’s not a slogan; it’s a fact. This isn’t something that’s open to debate. It’s like saying “gravity is real”; I don’t have to and shouldn’t entertain the idea that it’s not.
Thank you, Dan Angell, for admitting that you want thought terminated. Anything else you have to say will be viewed in the context of your statement, which suggests you believe that no one should be permitted to apply reason. Just obey.
No, that’s you. Everyone should be permitted to apply reason…but reason only leads to one conclusion, that trans women are women and trans men are men.
Again, why would I entertain a delusional thought? If I say gravity is real, well, we know gravity is real; I don’t have to bother with someone who says it isn’t. The same holds with trans people: we know that trans women are women and trans men are men. So why do we need to waste time on delusion?
When someone says ‘gender affirming care’ to me I ask ‘do you mean helping little boys understand they are boys and not girls?’ No. They explain. I say ‘oh okay. You mean sterilization of children and child sexual mutilation’.
I won’t play along. And if they push me I say ‘this is child sexual abuse’.
I always think of Helen Joyce saying "calling someone male is not an insult, they are half of the population," when I hear someone saying "misgendering" is cruel; we are correctly sexing and that is not hateful.
Slogans like "Trans women are women etc" are, as Lifton described, "thought terminating cliches", used by purveyors of totalist ideologies to shut down dissent and independent thinking. Food for thought.
No, you are misgendering and it is cruel and hateful.
They are technically being truthful. What you were doing is engaging in emotional manipulation.
No, they’re not. They are being delusional. What I am doing is simply accepting reality.
You have adopted a new moral and linguistic framework. And you’re trying to make those who have not complied wrong. You’re no different than the religious right, trying to force people to have the “right” beliefs.
My position is based on both science and on human decency, so I’m a lot different than the “religious” right.
First, let’s look at science. How much of the science that you say you follow is empirically grounded versus based on a new framework that is being used to discuss this issue? Tobacco companies used to say they were following the science when making claims that there were no evidence that smoking could be harmful. Second, people on the religious right think they’re doing the right thing as well and they could also cherry pick science to back up some of the things they say.
You and reality are barely acquainted
You’re pretending that Sarah McBride is a man. You’re in no position to claim anyone else has an issue with reality.
To whom you are attracted sexually is mostly a subjective feeling (although there are some objective tests that can identify it) and therefore cannot reasonably be contested by an outside observer.
Where you decide to live your life on a spectrum of superficial, stereotypical male to female attributes (and we all do) is purely subjective and similarly cannot be questioned.
However, your biological sex reflects an objective reality which cannot be changed by your subjective personal view and futile attempts to do so can result in serious health impacts to you as well as harms to members of the sex you are impersonating (primarily women).
Others who are grounded in objective reality should never be forced to accept your subjective version of your actual biological sex.
Finally, it's past time for the LGB community to separate themselves from the trans activists who are trying to take away the rights of women to fairness in sports and to privacy and safety in their restrooms, locker rooms and prisons. They also advocate for the chemical and surgical mutilation of children many of whom would grow up gay.
Their actions are evil and the
understandable negative reaction to the harm they are causing is spilling over to innocent people who are just going about their business, marrying and leading their lives.
Claiming the trans activists are trying to take away the rights of women is like claiming PETA advocates for the killing of animals. Trans people are trying to EXPAND women’s rights, not take them away. And the claim that children would otherwise grow up gay is just ludicrous. Trans kids and gay kids are two different groups. You can be in both, but nothing says you have to be.
Trans activists (men who pretend to be women) are definitely taking away the right to single sex spaces of females! Humans can't change sex, and certain spaces are for female sex only. Males who invade these spaces are taking away the rights of women. And research has shown that a majority of gender non-conforming kids grow up to be gay. There is no such thing as a "trans" child.
Amazing…literally every word you wrote was wrong.
Of course there’s a such thing as a trans child. Every trans adult was once a trans child. Where the eff do you think trans adults come from if there were no trans children; they don’t just fall out of the sky at age 20.
Humans can change sex. We’ve known they can for decades. Trans women are not males and certainly aren’t invading women’s spaces. In most cases, cis women invite trans women into their spaces because they understand that trans women are women.
Transphobes are the ones who are taking away women’s rights. You pretend that trans women are men, while allowing the patriarchy to strip your rights because you want to feel like you’re better than someone. Look in the mirror, you are the problem!
And no, research does not even suggest gender non-conforming kids grow up to be gay. That’s a completely ludicrous statement with no basis in science.
One of my friends had literal nightmares about having to go through male puberty because she knew that she was not a boy. How would that have anything to do with her sexuality?
Ok Syme. Can't reason with someone who believes humans can change sex.
It's mind boggling how "progressive" men feel completely comfortable dictating to women whom they should be forced to share locker rooms, prison cells and rape shelters with. They make MAGA men look positively feminist by comparison.
Not my fault you didn’t pay attention in biology. We have known humans can change sex for decades.
It’s a lot harder to reason with someone who thinks there’s no such thing as a trans child…another thing proven by science.
Your arrogance is on a par with your intellectual vacuity. you don’t have an argument: you just have a lot of argumentativeness.
Great article, a pleasure to read. I hope for more.
Indeed these are men mimicking women, it has a biological term - sex mimicry. It appears in all major animal groups, from reptiles to birds to fish and mammals and cephalopods.
It is neither illegal nor evil to refer to an amateur actor by their actual name, and actual “he she” pronoun.
In fact, unless you’re an actor in the same play, it’s normal.
Love that last line.
“Careful medical evaluation” my ass. An MD who asserts this falsehood is practicing fraudulently and incompetently and should not retain their license to practice.
Thank you for posting the link to the review article. I have a feeling that it will be an invaluable read for anyone who, like me, is trying to talk a friend or family member out of continuing “gender affirming” hormone therapy. I hear so many medical professionals touting the many benefits of hormone therapy, but I never hear anything at all from the establishment about the risks. I’ve always thought that there had to be risks, potentially even very serious ones, based on extrapolation from various documented medical conditions and medication side effects which mimic “gender affirming care” (ie. Klinefelter’s Syndrome, the side effects of synthetic estrogens, etc), but it’s been so hard to find anything that deals with transgender medicine directly because it is so new.
If you're looking for sound medical research papers on the effects of gender procedures, SEGM is a good source: https://segm.org/studies
Also, a few years ago, Leor Sapir deconstructed some of the faulty claims that there are benefits to maiming children with puberty blockers (this might not be relevant to your situation if the friend or family member is already well into puberty): https://www.realityslaststand.com/p/the-distortions-in-jack-turbans-psychology
Excellent.
Stacked and restacked and restacked.
Great piece, Anita.
Have cross posted
https://dustymasterson.substack.com/p/the-dig-part-1
Dusty
Thanks, Dusty.
While there are no barriers to self ID, I fully reject pronoun privilege in all forms and will continue supporting all efforts to: ban gender affirming care for those under 25, sue the doctors who followed consumer-driven care, and ensure the party of they/them is dismatled.
If “gender is a social construct,” why do so many “trans” people adopt these constructs as part of their transgendering?
If it's a spectrum, why do they get surgery and take hormones to conform to an binary?
Look around at all the straight men mewling and carping for trans-identified men. MattY (who founded Substack, by the way), Ezra, Jolyon Maugham, Keir Starmer, J. B. Pritzker, Jared Polis, Bob Ferguson, Gavin Newsom, blah blah. Yes, you can find a couple of women here and there mouthing the same tune. But honestly, it's wall-to-wall straight dudes out there serving men's social interest in controlling women while costing the transpologists nothing.
Quite a coincidence, isn't it?
Strangio, indeed
This is disgusting. I applaud their efforts to require basic decency when referring to CongressWOMAN SARAH McBride and other trans people.
Your rejection of science does not mean that the rest of the world has to go along with your delusion. Trans women are women and trans men are men.
"Trans women are women and trans men are men."
This is a very different statement than "women are women and men are men."
Can you tell us makes trans women and trans men "trans," and why we need to mention it at all if they are merely women and men? And if they're not simply women and men, what's the difference?
Eric Blair, hmm? Love it.
Slogans like "Trans women are women etc" are, as Lifton described, "thought terminating cliches", used by purveyors of totalist ideologies to shut down dissent and independent thinking. Food for thought.
Man. The science is Tim McBride's male DNA present in every cell of his body and his penis, whether or not it's still attached. You cannot gaslight us anymore!
I’m sorry, but Sarah McBride is a woman. You cannot gaslight us.
🤣
Slogans like "Trans women are women etc" are, as Lifton described, "thought terminating cliches", used by purveyors of totalist ideologies to shut down dissent and independent thinking. Food for thought.
It’s not a slogan; it’s a fact. This isn’t something that’s open to debate. It’s like saying “gravity is real”; I don’t have to and shouldn’t entertain the idea that it’s not.
Sounds like thought has indeed been terminated!
As it should be in this case.
Thank you, Dan Angell, for admitting that you want thought terminated. Anything else you have to say will be viewed in the context of your statement, which suggests you believe that no one should be permitted to apply reason. Just obey.
No, that’s you. Everyone should be permitted to apply reason…but reason only leads to one conclusion, that trans women are women and trans men are men.
Again, why would I entertain a delusional thought? If I say gravity is real, well, we know gravity is real; I don’t have to bother with someone who says it isn’t. The same holds with trans people: we know that trans women are women and trans men are men. So why do we need to waste time on delusion?
And long ago buried.